[Illusion]

Originally Posted by MystMist

No i mean like first there was Odin during Yule in the pagan days.
First real iteration of Santa was Saint Nicholas of the church.
There is also Sinteerklaas and his buddy krampus that stroke fear into the hearts of the children of Europe.
Father christmas and grandfather frost legends are also connected to christmas and santa.
So i mean are those guys still out there because they don't seem to be Santa since their Modus Operandi vary so much from his?

Those past beings have been long gone. I don't know much else other then that.